Don't take your guns to town, especially the clubs

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In no way is this enhanced by violence.

I want to get back to complaining about awful dancing, cliched songwriting, ill-advised tattoos, and singers who are convinced they're Freddie Mercury reincarnated. This past weekend's violent incident at 400 Soundbar that left nine wounded from gunshots won't let me just yet.

From the Hexagon Bar to First Avenue to Target Field, there are oh so many Twin Cities venues where feedback, bass, and lyricism ring out and bond us. Every time violence breaks out, that bond gets tremors, cold sweats, hypertension, and ponders its own mortality.


Packing a gun, a knife, or even the intent to harm someone with your fists might seem like a great idea to the Boondock Saints, Bad Girls Club, and Call of Duty-addled mind. But these revenge fantasies taking place in over-packed clubs are wildly unoriginal and mind-bogglingly selfish. There's a considerable risk that the beef you had with another person balloons into beef with several hundred who are now angry that you fucked up their Saturday night. Not to mention that such acts are illegal and punishable by law. It's like you're wearing a tiara and parading your deadly beef-elorette party around the city. Get over yourself.

Our citizens have the right to safely dance, rock, and generally toast their weekend in establishments other than their studio apartments, and Kevlar never looks slimming. Clerks, hairdressers, janitors, teachers, bus drivers, librarians, bellhops, and thousands of other hard-working souls with blue, white, and no-collar appointments all week long are the people who make the cities run. A violent disruption to the few hours a person can spend in a state of relaxation each week is the grandest of larceny.

There's no such thing as an isolated incident. Be it a club in the warehouse district, a dance night on the West Bank, or at a hip-hop show on the edge of downtown, these events have legs. Every time there's violence at any club, people think twice about going out and spending money into the entertainment economy. Politicians and law enforcement hold up music events as scapegoats. Backers think twice about sinking money into venues. Those venues have to spend more on security and metal detectors. DJs, musicians, and club employees lose income. Higher taxes and insurance rates mean ticket and drink prices have nowhere to go but up. And, worst of all, hand-wringing bloggers write blogs.

Back in May, Compton rapper YG performed at First Avenue. The last time the 24-year-old star hit town with Yo Gotti, a man was shot and killed at Epic. (And Epic's calendar has been quite bare since then.) So it was understandable that security was tight, and there was genuine concern on the faces of First Avenue staff on the night of this show. Things still got a tad ugly that night, but peril was averted -- sort of.


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CrucibleArms
CrucibleArms

People who commit violence via gun, knife, fist, or other means in night clubs are called criminals.  Those who legally carry a firearm into a club are called law abiding citizens.  To infer, as this article seems to do, that law abiding citizens legally carrying a firearm into a club are somehow going to "go off" is like saying you're just waiting to get drunk, jump in your car, and "go off" and kill someone.  The fact is citizens legally carrying firearms have been next to you for years in the nightclub, grocery store, stadium, church..... no "blood in the aisles", no "shootouts at the OK corral.

Asking criminals to "please don't pack heat at the club" is like asking them to submit to a so called "universal" background check.  It's opiate for the masses to make you think you're somehow safer.

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MNjoe
MNjoe topcommenter

Thanks for the Johnny Cash video - nice touch! 

Aaron Nelson
Aaron Nelson

How about we blame the real culprit. Stupidity and neglect. A responsible gun owner would never bring a weapon out to a bar. Too many people and more likely than not you are going to a bar to drink. Drinking often leads to poor decisions and violence. It's too bad some punks bought a pos gun at a pawn shop and think they are cowboys. However, I hope you all know there are responsible, trained and licensed individuals carrying weapons every day that aren't looking for trouble.

Anna G
Anna G

FTR, Epic also closed. Shout House is taking over downstairs & I believe Cowboy Jack's is expanding into the upper level. Karma, Visage, Epic, now 400 Soundbar... all closed after shootings. Make it stop.

Jason Swan
Jason Swan

Nobody should feel the need to bring a weapon to a club, or downtown for that matter, but that's the world that we live in now. There's no such thing as Minnesota nice anymore. I used to go downtown quite a bit, but the scene has changed along with the culture. When I was a kid, there were areas that you avoided, and only occasionally did the violence spill over into the rest of the city. But now going downtown alone, or with just you and your significant other, equates to victimizing yourself into a statistic. It's not only the patrons in the club, such as the group of twenty roided out men with painted on shirts that stand at the bar or in front of the only access to the restrooms, it's also the groups of thugs that stand on every corner and threaten you for having the nerve to walk down their street. This is everywhere downtown, especially the warehouse district. You have as much to fear from the security at clubs as you do the ones they're there to control and the police do absolutely nothing. Taking the light rail home? Same thing. But nobody wants to address any of it because that wouldn't be PC. If you don't prepare for the worse case scenario, even going out to have a good time, you're putting yourself in serious jeopardy.

Larry Andrews
Larry Andrews

Excellent article, especially the part about the poor bar owner who should not have to suffer just because some lowlife decides to be a lowlife in the club.

KarateDan
KarateDan

Reed - 


Well said, but you're assuming that the people who are the problem actually know how to read. 

janasack
janasack

@gimme_noise well put. People need to chill out, going out should be risking your life. Bar employees shouldn't be put at risk either.

Ryan Strandmark
Ryan Strandmark

Reed Fischer... If you see him downtown or at a club, just know that he is unarmed dumb ass with a victim mentality who thinks the state and mismanaged nightclub businesses will keep him safe and secure. Only YOU are responsible for your security. CCW FTW.

Jase Roe
Jase Roe

Sad that this is even a article that had to be written. .. like why do I need a gun to go out to the club...let alone feel like I need one living in downtown ..... like what's wrong with everyone...why does everyone have something to prove or so mad at complete strangers? This is cray....just sayin...

Chad Howard
Chad Howard

Good one, like that will change anything

ChazDanger
ChazDanger topcommenter

"I'm a dumb loud mouth with nothing valid to say. But I am better than you! "


FTFY

info3592
info3592

Um, we're talking about gangbangers. Whole different thing from a 110 lb woman legally carrying as she walks through downtown or a parking garage at night, or any time of day for that matter. Download a Mpls police scanner app and give a listen some time. You're in for a bit of an awakening.

NoMoreGasthof
NoMoreGasthof

I am sure you have your own AMAZING plan you are implementing.

ReedFischer
ReedFischer moderator

Hey Chad Howard: Just curious, as a "Tactical Security Officer at American Security LLC," would you prefer that we ignore this problem altogether?

ReedFischer
ReedFischer moderator

@NoMoreGasthof My plan is to get people to talk about it more and think about it more. It is amazing.

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