Minneapolis/st. Paul Blog

If this isn't an incitement to violence, I don't know what is.
That's because you're a moron

I'm beginning to wonder where they get the writers for this site.

"If authorities are serious about protecting the city from riots, they might want to send some of their infilitrators to the next Ron Paul meeting."

What country do you live in Hoffman? I live in the United States of America. A place where peaceful protesters and dissenters should be protected from the very government they are railing against.

Instead, you want them infiltrated?

Do us all a favor. Go into your closet, put on your brown shirt and have the guts to begin wearing it out in public. Why not, your writing already labels you as such.

Ron Paul is a great White supremicist party spokesmouth. David Duke v2.0

Anyone who has supported Ron Paul should have always known it would be an uphill battle. Ron Paul was and is up against more than just his fellow Republican candidates, he is up against an established elite that has built up a system of dual political hegemony and has created rules and laws to insure the failure of any challenge to that hegemony. He´s up against banking and other corporate interests, a military industrial complex. They certainly would not want the masses to be honestly informed. They wouldn´t want the message of freedom to get out. That would weaken their grip on the control they enjoy. Unfortunately, the vast majority of our fellow citizens remain fooled by the left right paradigm created to provide the illusion of choice, or at the very least they remain silent and complicit.

Ron Paul seems unelectable to clowns like Kevin Hoffman because they don´t want freedom. They want to be taken care of by the government. They want to be told what to do. They want to be told how to live their lives, what to put in their bodies, and they want the security blanket and protection that mommy government offers them. They are afraid to take responsibility for their own lives. They are frightened at the prospect of thinking for themselves and making their own decisions. They believe that somehow civil society will break down should the free market be allowed to operate without regulation. And these people want to use government to force me and other freedom lovers to give up the same cherished liberties that they have given up. After all, these are the people who have voted for establishment politicians who demand total control of everyone, everywhere, all the time.

How dare you mock the authorities comrade. They know what they are doing. It is not your place to second guess and publish dissent against them.

“Let it not be said that noone cared, that noone objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy. Let it not be said that we did nothing.”
~Ron Paul~

Is the Declaration of Independence an incitement to violence? If the answer is yes, then it's not Paulites you should fear.

Who exactly should be infiltrating anyone, and under what authority should there be infiltration? And why infiltration?

Do your OWN homework.

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BETTER than Ron Paul himself!

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I'm glad you liked my video. By the way those terroristic quotes were directly out of the Declaration of Independence.

I do not think you will be seeing RP republicans revolting. We play by the rules. It is the neo-cons who are revolting. BE VERY WARY. The real horror is, the Democrat candidates are WORSE than McCain't..

This article incites stupidity.

We incite truth and justice..

If the FBI considers vegans threats then you should wonder why the FBI is still in business.

When they start coming after Americans then the truth is seen clearly. We have criminals in the government acting under color of authority. They are the ones who incite violence with every criminal raid. With every killing of innocent Americans. The FBI can not be trusted anymore.

The Ron Paul Revolution is a peaceful movement. Those who claim otherwise are intent in causing us harm. Let's see who incites who....

You're an idiot.

Incitement to violence?
Too funny!
He is the only major candidate inciting peace.

Well put "Jeffrey!"

Ron Paul, THE peace candidate, inciter of violence?? Say WHAT?

Hey kids: poor Kevin Hoffman is yet another example of what crack does to the human mind. Stay far away from it!

Fellow patriots: remember Dr. Paul has been up against this nonsense a lot longer than we have! Let's look to his fine example of dignity in the face of ridicule and marginalization, and hold our heads high because America IS worth it!

The Revolution: A Manifesto, Ron Paul
Read it, and pass it on.

It's funny how the same people who support Mr. McCain and his "100 years of War" plan for the Republican Party, are worried about Ron Paul supporters starting a "riot".

Hmmmmm.

Thank you, Hoffman!

You should be my Propaganda Minister! Our Agitprop writers and the Nazi's Joseph Goebbels combined has nothing on you, comrade! I can't wait for common Americans to feel my legacy as their lives are infiltrated by my KBG, now CIA/FBI, loyalists. Vegans, Grannies, Young, Old... infiltrate them all! Remember, we must protect America by getting rid of privacy laws, expand surveillance of citizens under the guise of finding terrorists, make jokes about torture to soften it's moral impacts, and most of all we must remove all their guns! Motherland Defense is priority number one!

In your next article, could you write about how Americans should give up more freedoms for security? Cause we all know that they're just sheep. Sheep need a sheep herder, right? To the gulags they go -- of course, we call them FEMA camps now. ;)

Mr. Hoffman, I know the gentleman who edited and directed the video, and I can assure you that:
A) he is against violence
B) he is not a terrorist
C) he is against the Iraq War

So all your allegations are wrong. If you really want proof that I know him, I can send you a copy of the pages from our college yearbook. Or a dozen pictures with both him and I in them. Take your pick.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable."
- John F. Kennedy

Mr. Hoffman,

It is YOU and people like YOU who are making peaceful revolution impossible, and it is people like YOU who will be to blame if violent revolution ever takes place.

I bet this guy squats when he pees

"For a bunch of people protesting that you're peaceful, you sure make a lot of threats."

Actually, I didn't see anyone make any threats to anyone in this entire thread. It's not a threat to say "I hope you die". It is, however, a threat to say "I'm going to kill you", which no one has even gotten close to saying.

I have been an avid Ron Paul follower since I learned about him about a year ago. I have seen NOTHING from any other supporters about starting a riot. The only people talking about a riot are the anti-RP people. Almost seems like you guys want us to start a riot, just so you can dismiss what we stand for. Who else should we send the FBI to spy on?

This article is disgrace to journalism. Do a little research about the topic you are reporting before writing; think and then speak.

Mr. Hoffman, you seem to want to brush Ron Paul supporters aside as crazy people. I am MN born, raised, and educated. And I'm a Ron Paul supporter. I work at a technology and marketing company and many of us dicuss Ron Paul amongst ourselves. In the past I have worked in the campaigns of local republican candidates. I attended the county election night reception in 2006. I was a delegate at this year's BPOU convention and I am an alternate at the state convention. I think I have every right to say the party has lost its way on some issues and call for a change. There's nothing wrong with disagreement. Without it, why have elections?

Ron Paul is my hero. When the dust settles on this disastrous era in American history, it will be people like Ron Paul who will be borne out as being in the right. If we truly want America to be a great and prosperous nation, we need more Ron Pauls - we will need to take up the banner of revoution begun over 230 years ago. It was a love of inalienable human freedom and individual, God-given liberty which once turned an outpost of the British Empire into the strong Republic we inherited, and it has been the greed, megalomania, and fear of a few that is tearing that apart. Infiltrations of this group or that is part and parcel of this idiotic and dangerous brand of fear that ultimately destroys true Liberty.

We will win this fight if it takes us 100 years.

Dear Kevin:

First, to sink to an ad hominem: you are a cocksucking pussy. Obviously you discovered the magic potion of slamming the only honorable man in politics today in order to increase your page counts.

Next time try thinking before posting ok sweets?

If you think that the cops haven't infiltrated the Paulites already you are on crack.

OOOH, Hillary is my progressive savior. bwah hah ha!

Take one look at his last name and that should tell you what his problem is, with Ron Paul. Ron Paul doesn't crawl over to Tel Aviv and beg the MASTERS, like George Bush! He believes our leaders should look out for this nation and it's people. Our relationship with the AshkeNazi State is destroying this country! Just checkout the attack on the USS Liberty and that attack took place 40 years ago. The control by the Israeli Firsters has grown since then. Definition Of Israeli Firsters. People who commit TREASON against America to serve the Jewish State. Like George Bush and Dick, Shoot Them In The Face Cheney. The other name is Zionists.

Well, Ron Paul's supporters infiltrated the Republican party. Turnabout is fair play.

We'd better watch out before these Ron Paul types start infiltrating the government and its agencies.

Enemies of the present government and its authority are enemies of the United States and need to be treated like terrorists. Put 'em in GITMO without a trial or lawyers for a few years - then we'll see how tough these 'revolutionaries' are.

I say incite the full force and power of the federal government on their islamofascist-appeasing fringe crackpot pacifist asses!

Anyone that disagrees with the Democrud/Republicrud Regime is a terrorist. The Patriot Act is to protect the Regime from YOU.

Yeah, sure. Don't fear the Feds and the Police State apparatus that are infiltrating your peer groups, spying on you, collecting data about you, and deceiving you and your friends. The Federal Government needs to spy on you and subvert your thoughts for your own protection.

Instead, fear the Ron Paul supporters for being against the unconstitutional behavior of the surveillance state.

To fear the State would be Thought Crime.

Hoffman is just another petty police state empire worshipping coward. "oh please protect me from the Ron Paul terrorists!!!"

The only terrorists are the FBI and the agent provocateurs they will plant in the rally disguised as Ron Paul fans to stir something up. THEY WANT trouble, while we are adamantly trying to avoid such a thing.

Just so you goons know we will be there at least 10,000 strong, all carrying cameras to record every single movement, so we can figure out who the spies and the agent provocaters are. The information war is two-sided, and if something happens, we will get to the bottom of it!

You're right Mr. Hoffman. To ever shine a negative light on nuclear armed-to-the-teeth (illegally obtained and built nuclear weapons btw, probably built from knowledge obtained by Turkish and Israeli spies in high places, ala Sibel Edmunds), interventionist, aggressive, "poor innocent victim" Israel is antisemitic (and what great marketers, PR, and PAC they have to sell that Big Lie). To question the motives of AIPAC, our benevolent War Party, and its ever expanding unconstitutional Surveillance State is treasonous.

To not grovel at the feet of AIPAC, rabid Lukidniks, and Zionists, and to make claims that you'll destroy the enemies of a foreign country, is truly Hitlerism. To promise that you'll destroy another country's enemies is Patriotic and American, and to not make promises to defend another nation from existential threats is antisemitic, in the same way that prosecuting Mossad moles like the treasonous traitor Jonathon Pollard and other traitorous, Israel-first Zioclown scum is antisemitic.

Sure it is.

Just remember that Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies.

I'm all for Ron Paul. A classical liberal: champion of peace, genuine free markets, and friendly international trade... what's not to appreciate? And the tone of the parent post veered awfully close to lauding police state-style internal surveillance.

All that being said, the pro-Paul comments here are, largely, juvenile and embarrassing.

I understand that not every Ron Paul acolyte possesses the pen of a Mencken, a Wilde, a Voltaire, a Chesterton, or even a Bierce. But it sure is nice to dream. You can caustically deride the author of the parent post without coming off like a school cafeteria bully.

Sure, the parent post is offensive. But why respond in kind?

Mr. Hoffman:

1) The philosophy of libertarianism is premised in nonaggression and the rights of property and for that you should be aware that Dr. Paul is against any form of violence and or threats of violence.

2) There have not been any threats of violence made by any Paul support that I have read here. I suggest you learn to read.

3) You make a fallacy when you try to equate the validity of the such a peaceful message with the person making it or the people who happen to support it. This is basic logic.

4) In regard to the "anti-semitic" comments you were referring to they were not, in fact, anti-semitic. One can be against the doctrines of Zionism (google it) and still not hate Jews, for example.

5) As a Paul supporter I don't appreciate being lumped into your collectivist dogma. We are individuals first and foremost and we just want to be left alone.

are you serious?

the supporters of the ONLY candidate who consistently has voted for peace, are a violent threat?

thank you for proving that communism is a psychotic disorder

The author of this post has been promoted to "collaborator." Your complicity in the destruction of our republic disgusts me. Pravda comes up with better ways to hide fascist rhetoric than you.

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Silly Wabbits! Don't upset the Ziofascists, they can't take the heat! They can't take any criticism whatsoever without throwing out the antiSemite card, nevermind how most of them have nary a drop of REAL Semitic (Middle Eastern) blood in them. They can't respond with anything constructive because they have no reasoned arguments to offer against your assertion that ZioFascism is contrary to U.S. interests.

By not wanting to blow the Middle East to Kingdom Come Ron Paul is the most PRO-Semitic candidate running!

PS: Don't insult women by calling these little Eichmanns "pussies!" Do you really think little Eichmanns could survive childbirth?

I don't understand it, you don't want the FBI infiltrating your peaceful group but instead you want it to infiltrate another? What are you a child? Since when did quotes from the declaration of independence become the words of terrorists? If you had any level of awareness when it comes to the Ron Paul people you would realize that these are freedom loving people. Which means that even though I'm sure a lot of them disagree with your political views, we fully believe in your right to have them. Many of us would die to defend your right to keep your political views and free speech, even if those views and speech are contrary to what we believe in.

"I don't agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it!" Does this quote not apply to the author? Are we all to be socialist vegans? Those who do not choose your path must be investigated by the FBI?

Honestly, I'm sure if you go back and re read what you wrote, and then come to an understand of the consequences of what you are calling for, you will post a retraction. Otherwise you are just as bad as the neo-cons, who believe all civil liberties and freedoms must be quashed for the health of the state. For some reason I feel that you aren't one to look at a government made, steel and barbwire 'free speech zone' and start busting with pride for your country. So stop trying to push others into such travesties.

"We've heard in our century far too much of the sounds of anguish from those who live under totalitarian rule. We've seen too many monuments made not out of marble or stone but out of barbed wire and terror. But from these terrible places have come survivors, witnesses to the triumph of the human spirit over the mystique of state power, prisoners whose spiritual values made them the rulers of their guards. With their survival, they brought us “the secret of the camps,” a lesson for our time and for any age: Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid."

Ronald Reagan, March 20, 1981, Remarks at the Conservative Political Action Conference Dinner

Unfortunately it took segregationist Governor Wallace to reveal the truth that "there's not a dime's worth of difference between" Republicans and Democrats. The Democrats willingly went along with the War in Iraq, suspension of Habeas Corpus, detaining protesters, banning books like "America Deceived' from Amazon, stealing private lands (Kelo decision), warrant-less wiretapping and refusing to investigate 9/11 properly. They are both guilty of treason.
Support Dr. Ron Paul and save this great nation.
Last link (before Google Books bends to gov't Will and drops the title):
America Deceived (book)

This is the simplistic crap you'd expect from a state that elected the socialist warmonger Hubert Horatio Humphrey.

Ron Paul worships the Prince of Peace,opposes foreign interventionism,wants the government to quit micro-managing our lives and wants government to quit forcing people to follow so many Unconstitutional laws! The majority of his supporters feel the same and want to live free in peace! To say all his supporters are violent is absurd! You're the one who shouldn't be taken seriously,Mr. Hoffman! Judging the vast majority of Paul supporters by a few hotheads and their angry rhetoric is like judging all vegetarians by the actions of animal rights extremists like ALF or by the vegetarian and Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler!

AMAZING! What an inspiring moment it has been to read this entire page of comments!!! What patriotism I see! What goodness! What zeal! Is it not incredible that ONE small article like this giving such disinformation about Ron Paul's movement has resulted in no less than EIGHTY comments IN SUPPORT of Ron Paul!!

WOW!!!

I am inspired!

Thank you everyone for your comments! And for your support of TRUTH and REAL FREEDOM! I just want to shake all of your hands right now!

Let me just remind everyone, too, that in the true spirit of this revolution, we must not give in and resort to the violent or hateful tactics of our detractors. I know it is tempting to hurl insults at people who post articles like this but that is not what we are about, is it? We are about PEACE, remember, and what we ultimately want is for everyone to get along and to realize the truth. In that light, please, I urge you all to retain the most respectful tone possible whenever you post or speak about Ron Paul and the ideas behind this revolution. For the detractors to come over to our side, they must first feel appreciated and welcomed by us, not insulted and attacked, no matter how much their comments seem to insult and incorrectly portray us.

So stay strong Paulites! Stay active, stay informed, stay peaceful and stay determined.

Cheers!

Kevin, people tend to get upset when you suggest sending the FBI after them. If you'd gone with a rational discussion of Ron Paul's views, you'd have gotten a different response.

Dear Sir,

I do not attack those who hold a different opinion than me. I try to remain courteous to those with whom I disagree with. I'd appreciate it if you extended me the same courtesy, rather than calling me childish names and attacking my views. I am a Republican. I'm not some hippie protester who doesn't even know what they're opposed to. It is my hope that I'll have the privilege to attend the convention, as a Republican (and hopefully, if things go well, as a delegate). If I am so inclined to voice my disapproval of party failure on principle and support a return to the party platform, why shouldn't I be allowed to do that? The real threat to the Republican party is naysayers like yourself who have no interest in Republican principles. Ron Paul and his supporters are not plotting to take over the convention and get him elected (although if you wake up to reality and recognize John McCain's imminent defeat, we'll be happy to step in and win the presidency).

A GOP Civil War is inevitable at this point, and not because of Ron Paul's supporters' actions. It is because of the hostile actions of the party hierarchy and those like yourself that continue to try and push us out. The more you push, the more we will push back, and we are resolved to bring the party back to its roots. If you're so opposed to that, perhaps you'd feel more comfortable with the Democrats. The present GOP is doomed. They will either continue on their present course and meet utter defeat in future elections, or they will be replaced with our principles. Either way, their days are numbered. So, you may spend your time attacking and poking fun, but I will have the last laugh. I will laugh when you lose, and I will laugh when I win.

My god. Ron Paulites are crazier than anyone suspected. Do everyone a favor and attempt to change politics in the real way, democratically. BS dogma has got you how far? Get real. Either infiltrate the supreme court or pull a real coup; otherwise, vote like the rest of us and participate. Fucking America is the greatest country and your bitching is close to retarded.

What flavor of kool aid do you drink Eric?
You really don't understand politics do you nor do you pay close attention to current events.
Or course it's easy to believe that you can change politics in a real way by the mere act of voting when you have no principles (or BS Dogma as you say).
How's that worked so far?

Some reasons to vote for Dr. Paul...

1. He supports the Constitution.
2. He believes in religious freedom.
3. He has never voted for a tax increase.
4. He is against public funding of abortion and in 2005 and 2007,
introduced the Sanctity of Life Act.
5. He is against funding abortion abroad.
6. He is against the national I.D. or Real I.D. act.
7. He believes in the 'just war theory'.
8. He supports the rights of private property owners.
9. He wants us out of the U.N.
10. He wants us to trade with nations and not war with them.
11. He is for 2nd Amendment rights and the only candidate to earn an A+ rating from
Gun Owners of America.
12. He opposes NAIS.
13. He wants to shrink the federal government, not expand it, and is philosophically opposed
to big government.
14. He has no plans to *start* a war with Iran or anyone else.
15. He wants to bring our troops home.
16. He has received the most military donations of any other candidate.
17. He does not belong to the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations).
18. He raised almost $2 million dollars on Martin Luther King Jr. day.
19. He wants to end the I.R.S.
20. He wants to cut spending. Really cut spending.
21. He is against eminent domain.
22. He is against the NAFTA superhighway.
23. He is against the North American Union or SPP (it exists google it).
24. He is for the principle of sound money.
25. He is against the idea of the Amero (google it).
26. He is against the Federal Reserve's monopoly on monetary regulation.
27. Between 2001 and early 2004 he had voted against more than 700 bills intended to
expand government.
28. He voted against the misnamed patriot act that stripped us of our
rights.
29. He is for the Bill of Rights and knows the meaning of liberty.
30. He has served on the House Foreign Affairs Committee and subcommittees, the Joint Economic
Committee and the Committee on Financial Services and subcommittees.
31. He was 1 of 4 people that supported Reagan early on.
32. He has been married for 51 years to the same woman, which is an achievement these days.
33. He doesn't support federal bills banning herbal supplements and dietary aids.
34. His name is *the* most searched for on the internet of all the other candidates.
35. He is a once in a lifetime candidate.
36. His record is consistent and has earned him the nickname Dr. NO.
37. Paul has introduced bills that would apply a $5,000 tax credit per child towards spending
on any type of children's education–related expenses, public, private, or homeschool.
38. He is actually against funding many unsuccessful federal programs.
39. He does not want to ruin healthcare by nationalizing it,(like Hillary, Obama, et al.)
40. He has not received campaign contributions from Rupert Murdoch
(like Hillary has).
41. He votes in accordance with the constitution.
42. He will not forcibly implant us or our troops with microchips or
like devices (it's for your safety, of course).
43. He is the only conservative, in the traditional sense, left.
44. Republicans love him because he is for small government.
45. Democrats love him because he will end the war for oil.
46. Libertarians love him because he wants the government out of their business.
47. He is the only electable republican candidate.
48. He is against the creation of a surveillance society (see London CCTV).
49. He supports home-school rights.
50. He wants to end the corporate welfare system that is destroying
our government's credibility.
51. He tells it like it is being truthful and not having to 'act the part'.
52. He has authored many books including, the best-selling "A Foreign Policy of Freedom"
among others.

Ron Paul is the Saviour of our Nation.......z